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Monday, May 23, 2011

Hard Water Stains? Dishwasher detergent that works!



Since moving to an area that has particularly hard water, and with the mandated formula change to all dishwasher detergents, my dishes are an absolute mess. 

They are clean, I promise.  But they don't look very clean, they look cloudy.  My glass, my tupperware, even some of my metal items are all cloudy.  It has been driving me nuts.

After seeing someone else make homemade laundry detergent (more on that tomorrow), I started thinking...perhaps I could come up with a homemade dishwasher detergent that would help with my problem of cloudy dishes.  So I started researching and researching and came up with a MAGICAL SOLUTION that actually gets my dishes clean!



Wanna see how well it works?  Here's my before and after!


Amazing huh?  (Yes, this is really embarrassing to admit my glasses were so gross looking!  I hated having people over because they were just yucky.  Of course, every one's glasses here look like that...so no one was judging...but it bothered me that my glasses looked like that!)

After making it, found a cute jar to put it in and then cut some brown vinyl letters so everyone would know what was in the jar.  Then I couldn't help myself, I added vinyl on the top to say how much to use. 



And then, because I am super lazy and didn't want to have remember my recipe, I cut brown vinyl for the back of the jar with my recipe!  (I love love love using vinyl for things like this!!)



And just like magic, my dishes are now clean!!  And this is definitely a cost effective way to wash dishes too. 

Here's the How To:

Home Made Dishwasher Detergent
  • 2 c borax
  • 2 c Arm & Hammer washing soda
  • 2 c lemi shine*
  • 1 c kosher salt
I found the borax, washing soda and lemi shine all at my local Walmart.  They were near the laundry and dish soap section that are currently combined at my store because they are in the middle of a remodel.  But you should find them in similar places in a similar kind of store.  Kosher salt was with the baking items. 

(I forgot to take a photo of the items but here is what they look like to help you find them!)

Borax, Multi-Purpose Cleaner (4 lbs 12 oz/76 oz/2.2 kg) Arm & Hammer Super Wash Soda, Detergent Booster 55 oz (1559 g) 
Lemishine Super Concentrated Powder Morton coarse kosher salt 3 lb
  1. Combine all ingredients in a bowl and stir until mixed.
  2. The citric acid in the lemi shine will make everything get a bit hard.  The first time I made this I put it directly into my container and it all got really really hard.  I had to use a knife to get it out.  So I suggest letting this mixture sit out in a bowl for a couple of days, stirring often.  You will still get a few little "balls" of detergent, but that is just fine!  You just don't want it all in one big piece!  Believe me, this is the best way to go!!
  3. The lemi shine suggests running an empty dishwasher cycle with just that in order to clean your dishwasher.  I followed their directions for good measure!
  4. Fill your rinse aid spot with white vinegar.  (This is sooo much cheaper then your typical rinse aid and makes a big difference in how your dishes will turn out!)
  5. Use 1 tbs of detergent per load of dishes.  I do about a 30/70 split with 30% in the pre-wash spot and 70% in the wash spot.  If you don't have a prewash spot, you can put it all in the wash spot.
*You can experiment with the lemi shine amount.  The original recipe I found and modified called for only 1 cup but said to add more if you have hard water.  I have really hard water, so I ended up using 2 cups and my dishes came out sparkly and shiny!!

I love my sparkly clean dishes!!

Have you found a difference in how clean your dishes get since the dishwasher detergent change?

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April@ Natural Nester said...

Thanks for posting this!! I have tried other versions of dishwasher detergent and they haven't worked for us at all because our water is so hard, too...I'll give this a shot though. I hope it works for us! I've never heard of Lemi-Shine...off to Wal-Mart I go!

Alisha @ Crafty Brooklyn Army Wife said...

TFS!! I love how you used the vinyl on the jar and put the recipe on it.

Stopping by from Sew Can Do. Here is what I shared this week: http://craftybrooklynarmywife.blogspot.com/2011/05/red-simplicity-cynthia-rowley-dress.html

Tiffany said...

I tried something last year but it left my dishes cloudy after a bit, I think the lemishine here will do the trick. Thanks for the information.

NessaAnn said...

Hmmmm, we have REALLY hard water so I will have to try this, too! Right now I'm using finish gel packs with a cup of vinegar for a rinse aid and that works fabulously for us, but it is a little pricey. I imagine this would be cheaper, I'll have to add to my walmart list for tomorrow!

Mandy @ Sugar Bee Crafts said...

my dishes look like your "before" - - here's to hoping this miracle works for me!

Janet said...

Oh gosh, I definitely want to try this! THANKS!

www.iheartmygluegun.com

Condo Blues said...

I'm experimenting with making dishwasher detergent too. Instead of Lemi Shine or citric acid I use powdered lemonade mix. It works well and is a bit cheaper too.

Do you find that the Kosher salt does anything?

AmberFaith said...

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Martha Winger said...

Great idea! My dishes look fine but the dishwasher has hard water build up. I'm sure this will help! And it has to be more eco-friendly, too.

Kathy said...

Thanks for posting! I, too, was having problems with our dishes coming out of the dishwasher looking clean. My husband called a place to have the dishwasher looked at and they told us about Lemi Shine (which I see you used). If, for some reason you want to use regular detergent again, you can also use the Lemi Shine (instructions on the back) with the detergent. Man, that stuff has made a difference!

Felicia @ All Things Fee said...

You are definitely not alone in the cloudy yet clean dish dept!

Would love for you to share over at Calling All Crafters!
http://allthingsfee.blogspot.com/2011/05/calling-all-crafters-8th-edition.html

cajunlicious said...

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Kim said...

I'm so glad I found this via Pinterest today! We have removed most commercial cleaners from our home and I recently picked up the 365 brand detergent from Whole Foods and it has turned our glasses this way. I'll be running to the store to get Lemi Shine ASAP! Thanks for sharing and such a cute jar!!

lisa said...

Wow I have to try this. Thanks!
Lisa
theenchantedoven.blogspot.com

Chris said...

This is awesome! It took me a lot of research to find a half decent detergent since they changed their formulas! I would love if you would share this at my party! http://usandthem1971.blogspot.com/2011/05/link-party-4.html Hope to see ya there! Chris

uglylemonerd said...

I love lemi shine! It's one of my favorite products ever! I'm going to have to add this to my list to try!:) Thanks!

Susan @ Busy Home Adventures said...

Thank you for posting this! We have semi-hard water and I'm a little worried about what our dishes will look like when we run out of our phosphorus-based cascade tabs. I've never heard of lemi-shime but I will check it out!

Popping over from strictly homemade!

Ashley said...

awesome awesomE///love this and its cute container, will try..ill let you know when i do and link back to you
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Julieanne said...

I have very hard water... perhaps I will try :)

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Chad and Mary Beth said...

This is awesome. i didn't know you could make your own soap like that. what a difference in how it washed up you glass.

Thanks for sharing.
Found you from Sew Can Do.

Would love if you would link up with us at http://www.nothingbutcountry.com on our 1st link up party too. Love your ideas.

Fabric Bows and More said...

Thanks for the recipe I think I will do this for Neighbor/Teacher gifts at Christmas time. We had this problem last Summer and found the Lemishine solved it. I just use a little with the cascade gel tabs and our dishes are back to normal. Come and join out link party: http://fabricbowsandmore.blogspot.com/

Stephanie said...

Wow! Thanks so much for posting this! We have tried dish detergent after dish detergent and our dishes always come out looking so nasty! I have looked into many different homemade detergents and this stuff sounds amazing! We already went out last night and bought the stuff! The dishwasher is currently running using this new detergent so we will see how it turns out! :D

Thia said...

I can't wait to try this!

Ashley said...

i made some of the detergent too...i only had a few things to come out cloudy and they were platic pieces...i also have very hard water...i was afraid my dishes were not getting clean so i mixed a little powdered dish detergent with it...i also have read that you can use a drop or 2 of dish soap in with it...i tried that too...i will give this a shot also... thanks for sharing...found you at someday crafts

Mimi said...

Can't wait to try this! Loving the vinyl recipe. I'll be trying this ASAP - thanks so much for sharing at The Thrifty Home :)

missbmckay said...

Great idea. Looks like it works really well. Thanks for the proof.LOL! I'm so trying this. Our hard water is awful.

Amanda @ Ninth Street Notions said...

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Sarah @ Sarahndipities said...

I LOVE this! Thanks for sharing at Make Something Mondays! I've featured you this week! Go take a peek!

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Lindy said...

Thanks for the recipe. I'm using one that requires citric acid but I have trouble finding it. I'm going to try the lemi shine next time! Great project.

Kathryn Michelle Jenkins said...

I've been wanting to try something like this. so awesome. I will definitely need to come back and try it out.

kathryn
www.thedragonsfairytail.blogspot.com

Bella@Bellabeforeandafter.blogspot.com said...

Hey Ashley, I just wanted to tell you that your post came just in the nick of time. I was running super low on dishwashing soap, and was just about to buy some more. Then I read how easy this recipe was, and of course couldn't wait to try it.

I only found the liquid lemi shine at the store, so I used citric acid instead, and added some baking soda, just for kicks, he he. SO FAR, I am loving, LOVING, LOVING this so much, and the fact that I made it, and it's eco friendly and it works is just awesome.

I will be doing a post on this soon, and of course link back to you girl.

Thanks so much for linking up to my party :)
I loved this so much, I featured you girl!
Come grab a button girl, and display it proudly!

Hugs, Bella **Features from week #38** @ Bella Before and After

Brenbren said...

Just made my own and my dishwasher looks better then every. My dishes look so much cleaner too! I don't have glass glasses, but my stainless steal items look much better and so do the plastic cups;)

Mama V said...

I cannot wait to make this today! Thank you!

Tamika said...

I wish I could get lemishine here in Canada - citric acid is hard to find - anyone know of a good substitute for lemishine???

Kat said...

OMGosh! I read every comment and your post twice! WOW! you are one smart cookie! And HELLO BIG COMPANIES OUT THERE HELLO listen to this lady! Hello!I just don't understand these people, they don't listen to the consumer do they! Bloggers are SO inspiring! It is amazing every day, I just cannot get enough of the innovative ways we take care of stuff when noone will fix what is broken! So you make it yourself! WOW you are great!!!!!
Why don't you write to them maybe you can make yourself some moola! they should hire you girl! I am going to try this too! AWESOME! Thank you so much for posting and sharing!!! hugs Kat =^.^= one of your newest Followers!

panamamama said...

Excited to try this- I've tried several recipes and none have worked. Love the recipe on the jars too!
Smart!

Jess B said...

I have been looking for a recipe for dishwasher detergent that worked without leaving a film. We resorted to using store brand detergent and adding some Lemi-Shine to that. I never even thought about adding it to the homemade stuff. Talk about a blonde moment. :) Thank you sooooooooo much!! I can not wait to try this!

Janelle said...

OH MY!!! I cannot believe the difference this made on your glasses. I have a very special pitcher that is ruined due to our extremely hard water. I am going to make this and will hope that I get the same results :) Did you have to wash the glasses more than once to get the film off or did it work the first time?

Cranberry Morning said...

Hi. I originally found this recipe on another blog (but of course can't remember which one!)but now found it on yours. My question is, why kosher salt instead of regular salt? Regular salt has an anti-caking agent, and the kosher salt I used (because it does not have a caking agent) caused my whole recipe to turn into one rock-solid chunk that I can't even chip off in order to use. Is it really necessary to use kosher salt? I'd sure like to use this recipe, but even though my container is tight, my soap is in one big chunk. :-( Maybe you and your other readers would please let me know how this worked for you and if you were able to keep it flowing so you could use it. Thanks very much!! I'm eager to use this, for I'm very happy with my homemade laundry detergent and wanted to have a good recipe for my dishes too. :-)

Jen said...

I think this works hands down better than even the most expensive dishwasher soap out there. Thank you thank you!

Rebecca said...

I am so excited you shared this idea and recipe!! I have a question for you, though! At my local store, there was liquid and granulated/powder Lemi-Shine. Which did you use? I assumed it was the powder, but when I mixed mine, it didn't clump at all! Did I use the right one or did I do something wrong? I have noticed an improvement in my dishes, but just wanted to check! Thanks!!!

LG said...

This was a great post! I too have very hard water! Thanks for the before and after picture. You did a great job explaining all of that!

Holly (2 Kids and Tired) said...

Thanks for sharing this. I love it. I'm on my second batch. We have really hard water and I used the 2 cups of lemi shine as well (basically the whole bottle!).

On a side note, this also makes a really good scrub if you have lots of hard water build-up in your shower or sinks. We moved into a house that had been empty for a long time (it had been a foreclosure and was in not fixer-upper shape) and the bathroom was horrible. I took some of this mixture, added some water to make a paste (it bubbles) and scrubbed the shower down. It seriously removed all the soap scum and hard water marks.

Thanks so much for sharing.

Holly (2 Kids and Tired) said...

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The Haydens said...

This looks great!! I would love to try it but we have a high efficiency dishwasher. Do you know if this is safe to use in one? Thank you for your help.

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

The Haydens - from what I have read, nothing in these ingredients should cause any issues in an HE dishwasher. I honestly have never heard of an HE dishwasher though!! How cool is that!?

Bridget said...

Another poster asked this and I didn't see the answer so I'm hoping someone will answer me....
Can you use regular salt instead of the kosher salt? What is the difference in the two for this recipe? Will regular salt not work?

Thanks!!!

Zibu said...

I have incredibly hard water too, and I LOVE Lemi Shine. I use Method Smarty Dish (grapefruit) and a smidge of powdered soap in the pre-rinse compartment, and I add a little Lemi Shine to each compartment. Makes a world of difference in how shiny my dishes are, and how shiny my stainless steel dishwasher interior is! Also: after I unload it, I spray the inside with some white vinegar. Especially in the rails for the top rack and in any other places where the deposits seem to accumulate (also on the floor of the machine, just under where the thickness of the door would be when it's closed)

Amy said...

We have terrible hard water and I can't wait to try this! I made my own laundry soap the other day and I love it! I love the smell of it too! That is almost as important to me as how well it cleans! :)
I would love to know what font you used for cutting out your vinyl! CUTE! As soon as I find Lemi Shine I will be making my own batch up! Can't wait!

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Hi Amy!

Thanks for stopping by! I hope you love this dishwasher detergent as much as we do!

When I cut this this vinyl out I didn't have my Silhouette, but I borrowed my friend's Cricut. I used the Lyrical Letter's cartridge though to cut these letters out.

I usually by Lemi Shine at WalMart! I believe it is near the dishwasher detergent area, but it is definitely with the cleaning supplies. For a long time near me they kept it out in the aisle though.

Thanks so much for stopping by!

Andrea said...

Thank you for this recipe! I made this a couple months ago with some success. At first, I didn't have any problem with it clumping together. It worked great! But as time went on, the concoction turned into a boulder! I had to chip away at it to get any out and it stopped getting my dishes clean. They looked like they did before using this recipe, maybe worse! So, since it's the citric acid in the LemiShine that causes it to harden, I made a new batch. This time I left the LemiShine out. I now add that to my dishwasher seperately and it works great!

Alyssa said...

I just made a small batch of dishwasher detergent this morning that I hope will work. I used 1/2 cup Borax, 1/2 cup baking soda, 1/2 cup washing soda, 1/2 cup cascade and 1/4 cup Lemi Shine. I used the cascade because I read somewhere about someone doing that and figured I could stretch it out really far this way and use way less per load. Now after reading about the citric acid in the Lemi Shine causing the batch to harden I think I'll leave it out and just add it separately per load. Here's hoping this works!

Carrie said...

I made this dish detergent and I LOVE it...except my silverware comes out dirty...any suggestions?

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Hi Carrie!

I am happy to hear you like the dish detergent!

But that is strange that your silverware comes out dirty :(

A few other things I do to help ensure that my dishes get as clean as possible are as follows: pre-wash everything, run my kitchen sink water until it is very hot right before running my dishwasher, make sure you use white vinegar in the rinse compartment. Also you can try adding a bit more Lemi-Shine or just adding a bit more detergent to your dishwasher.

Let me know how it turns out!

shanna said...

for all of you who have super hard water (as do I) I found that filling your sink with HOT water and vinegar and then letting your dish/cup/silverware/plastic-ware sit in the mix over night and then rinse with cool water in the am (sometimes you may have to run a sponge over it..and I mean sometimes) will get the "fog" off ANYTHING!!! I did this to my dishes b4 I started using the homemade soap just as she has listed and they have been amazingly "fog" free! :)

shanna said...

Carrie, I was having the same problem! Solved it by placing a cup (coffee) right side up full of vinegar on the top rack of the dishwasher (dishwasher empty) ran the hot water in my sink till HOT and was sure the disposal was run and cleaned then did a "pots and pans" "high temp" "sanitizing" rinse wash to clean the dishwasher.. I did it a 2nd time (right after)but this time I added baking soda AND lemi shine to the bottom of the dishwasher and I have yet to have the problem again... hope it helps!!

VinylDesign said...

We made the soap on Saturday and the next day went to use it and it was hard as a rock. Everything had stuck together. What did I do Erin.g or what can I do?

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

VinylDesign -

I believe that the Lemi Shine will cause this to happen (the citric acid I believe?) Anyway, I have two solutions for you.

1. Make the detergent and leave it out in a bowl for about 24 hours. Occasionally stir it and break apart any pieces that form. After a day or two, you can put it in a jar and it should be fine.

2. Leave the Lemi Shine out of the mixture and add it in to your dishwasher separately.

I have done both methods and it works just fine :)

Have a wonderful day!

Monkey said...

Any chance I can use iodized instead of kosher salt?

Tammy Cloak said...

Just found this fabulous recipe for the dishwasher! Thank you for making a recipe in smaller quantities. I was hesitant to try other similar recipes that called for entire boxes of ingredients. This, I can do!!

BabyRoadlander said...

So, I'm not a very good reader LOL. Mine is hard as a rock in the container. Going to have to toss it out and make it without the Lemi Shine. It drives the kids nuts and I'm constantly jabbing at it with a butter knife.

And my silverware always come out cloudy. Meh.

ambercook1 said...

Ok I have made this two times. The first time it got hard as a rock. This time it is trying (in a air tight container) but I keep shaking it so it doesn't. Has anyone else experienced this?? Please let me know. Thanks!!

nickilynnj said...

Hi - I have been making this recipe for a couple of months - found it on a different blog. I halve the recipe so it fits in a pint jar. I add about 15 drops of grapefruit essential oil to it too. Before I start the dishwasher, I also put a cup or so of vinegar in the bottom of the dishwasher and 2-3 SMALL drops of blue Dawn dishwashing soap. Its amazing how good this all works. I didn't enjoy the soap as much until the vinegar and Dawn addition. I always use vinegar as the rinse aid. I have found that some of the food residue is not completely scraped off of silverware and some plates (eggs, peanut butter on spoons, etc) so I just rinse those better before going in. I was a total non-rinser before. Now I figure its worth my time with as much money as I'm saving. I also shut off the 'heated dry' cycle. Our electric bill went down just from this. Not much but definately a noticable difference. I have even thought about adding a few marshmallows to the jar to keep it from clumping - mine doesn't clump bad -just sticks to the bottom of the jar. I figure if the marshmallows work to keep brown sugar from clumping why wouldn't it work for this?

SB said...

Does this work with soft water too??

Unknown said...

I'm curious about the salt, too, didn't put it in my current batch but want to know if it will make a difference next time. And good news, I found a 2x refill pack of Lemi Shine at my grocery store last week.

Jodi said...

One of the previous comments asked if the Lemishine is powder or liquid. I didn't see an answer but would like to get some feedback before I make this.

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Jodi - the LemiShine is a powder.

I usually respond to all comments via email as long as the email isn't a noreply email. When I created this post I had no idea it would become so popular. Now I try to respond via email if possible as well as answer on my blog. So I am sorry you couldn't find the answer. But I hope this helps!

Good luck and I hope you love it as much as I do!

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Unknown - I'm sorry but I don't understand your question about the salt. Let me know and I'd be happy to answer any questions for you!

Great find on the lemishine!
Ashley

Royalty said...

Thanks for the information. I am wondering if I can use "rock" salt only because I have some in the pantry. Well, maybe I will purchase kosher salt just to be safe. Thanks again.

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Royalty - Thanks for stopping by!

I am really not sure if rock salt would work. I do know that rock salt is inedible though...and I am not sure how well it would dissolve in a dishwasher and if it might leave any residue on the dishes or not.

Sorry I don't have an answer to your question.

Good luck!

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

SB - yes, I don't see why this wouldn't work with soft water. Although I don't have soft water so I don't know from personal experience :)

chickadeeworkshop said...

Thanks for the info. I made this up and found that I had to let the mixture sit out for about 4 days before it quit clumping. It may be affected be the amount of humidity (or lack of) in your kitchen or maybe even the temperature of the room. Anyhow, once it quit, I put it in an empty Oxyclean containter (I'm keeping it under the sink, so it doesn't need to be pretty) and it seems to be working fine. I am also using the white vinegar for the rinse aid. Thanks so much for passing this information on to everyone. I've shared it with my friends, also.

Jessie said...

I mixed some up for my house - thank you!

Denise said...

I mixed up a batch this morning, and left it in my Ninja processor all day, hitting the pulse every now and again. At this point (about 6 hours later) it is such a big wad of gum that my Ninja won't even spin it. I followed the recipe exactly, except cut it in half. Anyone else have this trouble? I'll continue to break it up by hand for a day or two (if I can), but I'm considering adding water and making it a liquid.

simplydesigning.blogspot.com said...

Hi Denise! Thanks for stopping by.

I am wondering, if, because your mixture was in an "air tight" container, if that is causing the problem.

When I made this the first time, I put it directly into a container and it became a big hard rock! But the second time I left it out in a bowl and just stirred it by hand every once in a while.

When I let it sit out for a day or two, it did not clump together.

So, I am thinking that perhaps, since it was in a container, it clumped on you.

Thanks for stopping by and please let me know if you have any further questions!

Thanks!
Ashley

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